Posts Tagged ‘Abortion’

The Thinking Viking is a Facebook person under his real name.  A FB friend under a sortofname recently shared this: (italics mine, of course. FB doesn’t let you italicize – hey, that’s a word…”Italicize” ) – this post may be updated as comments and thoughts come through..

mikethought · 2,129 like this

12 minutes ago ·
I liken gun laws to abortion.
No one likes the fact that people shoot people and no one likes the fact that people use abortion as contraception.
The same way gun laws don’t stop gun violence…pro-life laws won’t stop abortions.

In both cases, I think the answer is the same…we have to give people the choice and hope they do the right thing.

You can’t be in favor of protecting the 2nd Amendment and be pro-life. It’s contradictory…it’s the same game with a different name.

I could not agree more.  He has pre-empted my tirade on this topic so simply, and adroitly, that I cannot really add more to the argument.

Think about it, and tell me what you think.


PS the Facebook link to his original post “should” be


Well, hey kid

You got the right

But the choice to kill

No, Son of Sam

Will let you in to turn against

– Dead Sara “The Weatherman” off their eponymous debut album



This is to all the other good men out there.

That which we love is under attack.  Not the NFL or NHL, not NASCAR, not beer, not hot wings, not motorcycles or dogs. Rock and Roll? Doing fine. So what’s taking fire? Who needs our strength and honor?

Our sluts and prostitutes.  Or – According to Rush Limbaugh all women who use contraception. Rather, our mothers, wives, girlfriends, sisters, and daughters to rational people. If we stand silent while the rabid religious right continues their onslaught of hate and lies and domination we cannot call ourselves “men”.  We are bigger, we are stronger, but we are not “better”.

Remember how we protect the “weaker sex”?  First on the lifeboats, first out of a burning house, we hold the door for them and defer to their compassion and kindness.  How many of us express outrage when we hear stories of a woman beaten by her husband, of  a teen girl gang raped, we say to ourselves, “If  I had been there, I would have stopped that.” or ” I would kick that guy’s ass.”

I,  for one, won’t take it anymore. This man is  standing up and saying “Enough. This ends with me.”  Taking a quote from “They Live” (one of the best ever terrible sci-fi movies, IMHO)  “I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass… and I’m all out of bubblegum. “

You want to go after our sluts and prostitutes?  The women I love? You’re going to have to go through me first.

Think about it.


Please see “I love women. My Mom was one. Not that there’s anything wrong with that”

And “Rush Delivery”

And “The Littlest, Cutest  Terrorists – The Girl Scouts”


Indiana state Rep. Bob Morris has called the Girl Scouts a “radicalized” group.  That they “sexualize” (I’m not sure that’s a word) young girls and are somehow pursuing a homosexual agenda.  Where’s the “terrorist cell” claim?  They sell those cookies for cash, train in secret meetings and encourage active recruitment. As a Cub Scout, I recall having to memorize a pledge of some sort, I bet they have one too.  Think of what might be hidden in the millions of boxes of cookies on counter tops all over America right now.  But nothing, on that angle, nope, instead, Girl Scouts are evil because they promote women’s health and they don’t hate homosexuals.  Gods hep us, they will destroy America!

girl scout selling cookies

Terrorists! RUN!!! They're arming the COOKIES!!!

First claim is absurd, based solely on Planned Parenthood’s not-secret involvement with the group.  This somehow means that Girl Scouts will all get abortions or something. Yeah, right.  That fallacy would be laughed out of any rational discussion.  But we’re not seeing a “rational discussion” here.

The second claim…where do I start. SO WHAT?  If the Girl Scouts teach acceptance and kindness instead of fear and hate, so be it.  I am getting sick and god damned tired of politicians using spurious moral arguments to take shots at women and women’s reproductive rights. So a GS group in Colorado let in a boy who considers himself a girl. What, do you think this will turn your little girls into raging lesbians?  I doubt it.  No, we know what it is.  You hate gays, and the fact the Girl Scouts DON’T feel like you do pisses you off.  So you take cheap shots, over nothing, just so people will notice you.

Going after the Girls Scouts? Really?  Bob Morris, you couldn’t think of a better use of your time than to wail about a group whose goal states:   “Girl Scouting builds girls of courage, confidence, and character, who make the world a better place.”

Wait a minute.  I get it.

Bob’s not worried that his daughters will get abortions or become little versions of Ellen DeGeneres, he is worried that they might grow and learn and think for themselves.  And I bet that frightens him.  Because when they grow up and look at their Dad, they might not like what they see.

So, anyhow, Girl Scouts. They sell cookies.  And make S’mores. I think they sing Kum Ba Ya (radicals!).

Sounds OK to me.


Every person I have ever dated was a woman.  I’m just like that.  Makes me kind of biased, I’ll admit, but frankly, I don’t care.

What I don’t get is why so many seem to hate women, or at least think they are untrustworthy or even dangerous.  I saw a quote from a state senator from 2001, where they shared  that they felt the 19th Amendment – which gave women the right to vote – has harmed our country.  Ironically, that senator was a woman.  Now I see state after state trying to control what a woman does with her body. It all comes from the same people, the Religious Right.   I also admit that I’m not  completely qualified to judge, since I am not a woman. Apparently that doesn’t mean anything to these people either.

This is going to piss some of you off.  I will not recant.

Re: abortion.  Until the time a fetus is developed enough to survive outside the womb, it is part of a woman’s body and it is her choice what she does with it. Personally, I would never let an unwanted pregnancy get to the point where it has a face, but I’ve thought about it, and logic says, draw the line at it being viable to survive without mom.  Once it is developed enough to survive on it’s own, it is a person with rights like everyone else, until then, it is not a separate person.  There, that was  easy.  The “personhood”  bills that claim a fertilized egg should have the right to live are absurd. I saw a bill that would require women to prove miscarriages were not deliberate or face felony charges. This outrages me. My ex miscarried.  The gravity of that is still with me.  It may have been the beginning of the end of our relationship; she had said before that she didn’t want children, and I told her I felt the same.  Finding out that we almost had one may have changed her mind.  Can’t say.

Abortion opponents often imply that it is used lightly, as a way to have unprotected sex and not suffer consequences.  Song lyrics come to mind that state how I feel. Thank you “Everlast”

“Mary got pregnant from a kid named Tom, said he was in love.
He said d’ worry about a thing baby doll I’m the man you’ve been dreamin’ of.
But three months later he said he won’t date her or return her call.
And she swear god damn if I find that man I’m cuttin’ off his balls.
Then she heads for the clinic and she gets some static walkin’ through the door.
They call her a killer, and they call her a sinner, and they call her a whore.”

Trust me, it aint easy. I am still haunted, but I don’t regret what we chose to do.  At 19 I was in no way ready to be a father, and at 16 she was not ready to be a mom.  If you asked her now, I do believe she would feel the same. It not did work out for us as it did in that tune, but I understand.  Yes, you are right to infer that I could have two children with different women.  I have no children.  I’m OK with that.

Re: the uproar about religious institutions providing contraception.  This one makes no sense. None. There are already too many goddamned people on this planet.  Condoms prevent the spread of STDs.  Remember AIDS anyone?  People are going to fuck regardless of what their Church tells them. We are animals, and that is what animals do. The fact that the Catholic Church is still preaching abstinence in Africa while AIDS is still ravaging their population should be a crime.  And about the various drugs. Fact is, many contraceptive drugs are also used for other reasons.  I dated a wonderful girl years ago who routinely took six Advil three times a day, for days at a time, every month because of severe menstrual cramps.  She would literally  hide in her bedroom and cry.  After a few months, I suggested she see her doctor about it.  They gave her a hormone prescription.  The cramps subsided to tolerable levels, and I got my girlfriend for an extra week every month. Win – win.  That prescription was “The Pill”.  Was I enjoying not having to use condoms with her? Well, yes. Yes, I did enjoy that. And I see nothing wrong with it. Point- she was Catholic. She later cheated on me, I then realized she was a promiscuous type, and I dumped her.  Just the way it goes in my opinion.

Rick Santorum has said that a pregnant rape victim should be happy with God’s gift to her.  I suggest he should go undercover in a prison, drop the soap, and then accept the STD he gets as a gift from God.


Please see The Silence of the Men – men stand up and fight for the women you love!

Please see Rush Delivery for my open letter to Rush Limbaugh

Please see The Littlest, Cutest Terrorists – The Girl Scouts for more on the war on women